Unions were concerned last week to hear that the Department for Education has decided to pilot independent social work practices for children in care in up to 20 more local authorities in England.
They say the practices could lead to more bureaucracy, a blurring of accountability, job losses and ultimately the privatisation of children's services.
But at the Labour Party Conference yesterday, local government experts praised the employee-led model - co-operatives in particular - as a more cost-effective way of delivering services.
They are not an excuse for local authorities to "cut services adrift", insisted John Merry, leader of Salford Council.
He was joined in his defence by Clive Betts, chair of the Communities and Local Government Select Committee, who declared co-operatives "can do things more efficiently and save money".
The entire session, on delivering best practice at a local level, was a bit of a co-operative love-fest - and there was a distinct lack of union voices to give it balance.
There was talk, however, of the importance of working with the unions to "make sure they are part of the solution". I'm sure they will be pleased to hear that.
Elsewhere, people were talking about Suffolk Council.
Richard Watts, executive member of children and young people at Islington Council, referred to the "Suffolk-ation" of services.
"I think Suffolk is going to find themselves in a difficult position in a few year's time, when some of those [outsourced] services don't work," he said at a session on the role of local government in public services.
In stark contrast to the co-operatives session, the general consensus in this room was that some services simply work better in-house.
Pictured: personal adviser Cate White from the Evolve YP social work practice in Staffordshire talks to a young person in care (credit: Ed Maynard)

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